Ep. 148 David Heymann and Paul Fine: Herd Immunity Models and Realities

Our guests are Professors David L. Heymann and Paul Fine from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. Professor Heymann is a physician who held leading positions at the WHO for more than 20 years, coordinating global responses to epidemics such as Ebola, AIDS, polio, and SARS. He also served as Chairman of Public Health England from 2009 until 2017. Professor Fine is also a leading academic figure in epidemiology and public health with broad interests in infectious diseases. Professor Heymann and Professor Fine, along with colleague Ken Eames, have co-authored an landmark review paper on the concept of herd immunity.


David Heymann: Professional page and Wikipedia page

Paul Fine: Professional page


  • Paul Fine, Ken Eames, and David Heymann: “Herd Immunity”: A “Rough Guide (Open Access in Clinical Infectious Diseases)
  • David Heymann: How SARS Was Contained (Opinion in New York Times)


Ep. 140. Gabriela Gomes: Why Herd Immunity May Be At Hand


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1 Comment

  1. Lysander Spooner on 10/18/2020 at 10:54 AM

    This blistering critique of the UK’s Covid response is worth a read. A potential interviewee for the podcast? https://lockdownsceptics.org/what-sage-got-wrong/

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