Ep. 105 Privatizing the NHS: Who Profits?

Our guest is Dr. Bob Gill, producer of the documentary The Great NHS Heist. We discuss what life in the NHS is like, how it differs from practice in the United States, and most importantly, Dr. Gill’s fears of what is undermining the mission of the NHS – a hostile takeover by American corporate interests.


Dr. Bob Gill: Twitter





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  1. Lysander Spooner on 01/28/2020 at 4:36 PM

    Dr Gill sounds like a great doctor. But he needs to learn a lot more about economics and history. Speaking as an enforced contributor and user of the NHS it is fascinating to hear him commit fallacy after fallacy about this ramshackle bundle of cronyism and self-serving behaviour.

    I laughed when I heard him talk in glowing terms about how he personally had profitted from free education and from walking into a GP surgery business just after becoming a doctor, then rail against dirty corporations looking to make profits.

    Why is it noble for him to profit from the NHS but despicable for a business to do the same?

    Where is the evidence that the people who ace exams at 18 are the people who will become the best doctors?

    How can the government possibly know how many doctors to train?

    Why should the rest of us pay taxes so a few favoured people get medical training for free?

    Why are monopolies bad, except when they’re the NHS?

    I could go on all day. Please find someone who is expert on the myriad failings of the NHS to be interviewed on your show.

    • Michel Accad on 01/28/2020 at 4:52 PM

      You’re right about the left needing economics education or having double standards about profiteering. But to call these out at each turn would have detracted from the point of the conversation. Anish’s focus was to show to an audience US physicians who are currently being tempted by the promises of a single payer system that the NHS comes with the exact same types of bureaucratic intrusions as we have here. This seriously calls into question the rosy predictions of Medicare for All proponents that it will reduce administrative bloat.

      But thanks for the suggestion and we have plans to eventually discuss the NHS in a more critical manner. And thank you for listening!

  2. Anthony Perry, MD on 02/25/2020 at 3:06 AM

    Dr Gill is uncomfortable with the patient doing self-interested rationing of his own medical care and prefers the government to do it for him, a process that inevitably results in the situation he complains about.

    I graduated from med school in 1964 and watched the whole sorry Medicare mess develop step by step, overutilization followed by regulatory reaction, followed by counter reaction and on and on. Medicare will not become solvent by rooting out waste and abuse. Waste and abuse are inherent parts of the system.

    • Michel Accad on 02/25/2020 at 3:40 AM


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